Guest Opinion by Robert B.Graham Sr. June 16, 2004
Mr. Chuck Kilian with a B.S. in accounting and has worked as a tax and banking auditor for Congress, asks the seniors –“When is enough, enough? That’s the question I have asked the greedy teachers in Council Rock School district for over the last 10 years….they still want more.
And Chuck, what about the accounting profession that keeps on perpetrating the fraud of the ‘federal income tax’, which according to the law….Section 861, states there are only two types of peoples who must file…(1) An American who works outside the United States and (2) a person from another country who works inside the United States. Which one are you?
But then, if you place 10 accountants in ten separate rooms with the same tax information, how come not one would come out with the same answer, can’t they count? And why won’t the IRS answer 6 questions or for that matter, why won’t any accountant answer the six tax questions as follows, are they afraid of being sued under the RICO act.
Questions Regarding Determining Taxable Income
1) Should I use the rules found in 26 USC § 861(b), and the related regulations beginning at 26 CFR § 1.861-8, to determine my taxable domestic income?
2) If some individuals—including myself—should not use those sections for determining their taxable domestic income, please show me where the regulations say who should or should not use those sections for that.
Reason for first two questions: The regulations under 26 USC § 861(b) (26 CFR § 1.861-8 and following) begin by stating that Sections 861(b) and 863(a) state in general terms “how to determine taxable income of a taxpayer from sources within the United States” after gross income from the U.S. has been determined. (The regulations then say that Sections 862(b) and 863(a) describe how to determine taxable income from outside of the U.S.) Section 1.861-1(a)(1) of the regulations confirms that “taxable income from sources within the United States” is to be determined in accordance with the rules of 26 USC § 861(b) and 26 CFR § 1.861-8. (See also 26 CFR §§ 1.862-1(b), 1.863-1(c).)3) If a U.S. citizen lives and works exclusively within the 50 states, and receives all of his income from within the 50 states, do 26 USC § 861(b) and 26 CFR § 1.861-8 show such income to be taxable?
Reason for question: Section 217 of the Revenue Act of 1921, statutory predecessor of 26 USC § 861 and following, stated that income from within the U.S. was taxable for foreigners and for U.S. citizens and corporations deriving most of their income from federal possessions (but did not say the same about the domestic income of most Americans). The regulations under the equivalent section of the 1939 Code (e.g. §§ 29.119-1, 29.119-2, 29.119-9, 29.119-10 (1945)) showed the same thing. The current regulations at 1.861-8 still show income to be taxable only when derived from certain “specific sources and activities,” which, concerning domestic income, still relate only to foreigners and certain Americans receiving income from federal possessions (26 CFR §§ 1.861-8(a)(1), 1.861-8(a)(4), 1.861-8(f)(1)).
4) Should one refer to 26 CFR § 1.861-8T (d) (2) to determine whether the “items” of income he receives (such as compensation, interest, rents, dividends, etc.) are excluded for federal income tax purposes?
Reason for question: The regulations (26 CFR § 1.861-8(a) (3)) state that a “class of gross income” consists of the “items” of income listed in 26 USC § 61 (e.g. compensation, interest, etc.). The regulations (26 CFR §§ 1.861-8(b)(1)) then direct the reader to “paragraph (d)(2)” of the section, which provides that such “classes of gross income” may include some income which is excluded for federal income tax purposes.
5) What is the purpose of the list of non-exempt types of income found in 26 CFR § 1.861-8T (d) (2) (iii), and why is the income of the average American not on that list?
Reason for question: After defining “exempt income” to mean income which is exempt, eliminated, or excluded for federal income tax purposes (26 CFR § 1.861-8T(d)(2)(ii)), the regulations give a list of types of income which are not exempt (i.e. which are subject to tax), which includes the domestic income of foreigners, certain foreign income of Americans, income of certain possessions corporations, and income of international and foreign sales corporations, but which does not include the domestic income of the average American (26 CFR § 1.861-8T(d)(2)(iii)).
6) What types of income (if any) are not exempted from taxation by any statute, but are nonetheless “excluded by law” (not subject to the federal income tax) because they are, under the Constitution, not taxable by the federal government?
Reason for question: Older income tax regulations defining “gross income” and “net income” said that neither income exempted by statute “or fundamental law” were subject to the tax (§ 39.21-1 (1956)), and said that in addition to those types of income exempted by statute, other types of income were exempt because they were, “under the Constitution, not taxable by the Federal Government” (§ 39.22(b)-1 (1956)).
IF the newspaper chooses to eliminate the questions, you can go up on www.feartheirs.com to review them.
I want to obey the Law and I want every one else to do the same! The government wrote the law…I did not. I can’t answer the above questions and I am asking for help from the government who wrote the law.
Chuck, You state in your opinion that you can play with the numbers and workout sliding scales….how about just telling the TRUTH! I realize that telling the truth would mean that accountants and the IRS and federal judges and federal prosecutors have been in a conspiracy to defraud the American people for the last 80 years and their pay checks would cease. They would have to get an honest job.
Send for the ‘861 disk’ it’s free! Go up on the web at www.feartheirs.com and take the pink pill but first hit the FLASH…..to get you in the mood.
You might ask, what will the federal government do for revenue? Answer, just like they did for the 87 BILLION for the Iraq war…..where the federal gov’t went to the Federal Reserve, which is not federal and has no reserve. The treasury requested a check from the Fed. Res. And deposited it into the Treasury checking account and then proceeded to pay for the equipment needed to destroy Iraq. It is that simple, isn’t it Chuck.
There is an old saying that “You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time”. The accounting ‘profession’ has been engaged in a “FRAUD”……In conspiracy with the IRS to get a yearly paycheck from THEIR CLIENTS…people who trusted them!They should be tried and when found ‘GUILTY’…..they should be imprisoned….just like they did to me to cover-up their crimes. They put me in prison for a non-crime.
Read my book…April 15th – The Fear Factor, get a copy of the ‘861 disk’ call 215-355-5660 or e-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.org . Thirty million Americans have stopped filing and paying…How about YOU!
Robert B. Graham Sr.
Saturday, June 19, 2004
Monday, June 14, 2004
Freedom Roast – 2004…….is HISTORY and it is recorded!
Bill Stegmeier is a one of a kind gentleman who…put his money where his mouth is. He handled the Roast with quiet dignity and a professionalism that is all to lacking in the United States. He made every one feel welcome. THANK YOU, BILL!
He told me that he had read my book. April 15th - The Fear Factor and I saw him encouraging others to purchase it. In fact he bought 5 more books.
He made Larken Rose’s ‘861 video disk’ available to all. A container of them was placed on every table, but one, guess who. The disk was the highlight of every conversation and was mentioned by every speaker, but one, guess who.
On the plane ride home I reflected on the Roast and as we flew over the Baseball field I look down and saw about 50,000 Americans who paid $10.00 or more to rent a seat to ‘watch a baseball game’. Nero fiddled while Rome burned.
Why didn’t we have 50,000 attendees… did the We The People organization know about it? I did not get an e-mail from them. I got an announcement of a couple of ‘key’ people quitting because of a lack of leadership. I got an announcement of another sermon by the preacher.
The ‘We The People’ organization claims to have over 65,000 members. I believe this is not true. I see no evidence of their activities…except ….every once in a while their ‘leader’ rents a hall in Washington and invites the ‘choir’ to listen to more of his sermons. We would all be better served if he would take his act to the ‘halls of Congress’, like his predecessors did. I also see e-mails where prominent people, who I respect, QUIT the WTPO…… Bob preached while the organization burned.
There is a ‘mule story’ about hitting the Congress with a 2 by 4 to get their attention, but you must be in front of the mule…first!
As one of the speakers, I related to the audience at the Roast…I have been absent from the movement for almost 20 years…it’s like I was in a comma for 20 years and I just woke up. I lamented, the only thing that is different…..is the present generation of ‘patriots’ is far, far behind their ancestors……except for the ‘861 disk’.
With the present tools which are available to patriots……with more action and less preaching we should be victorious within six months….Larken Rose did a magnificent job!
I suggested to the ‘flock’, instead of renting a ‘hall’ where he can preach to the choir….He should RENT A COUPLE OF BUSSES and go to a Congressional hearing an testify. History will show that past generations had done this feat and received ‘free publicity’ in the media; it is documented in the book……THE BOOK IS EVIDENCE AND SHOULD BE USED IN COURT after you read and learn the history of the movement. It should not be ignored. Those who ignore these achievements DISHONOR their forefathers and they should be ashamed of themselves.
Stop defending Bob S.….would you like to read a defense letter from Devvy to me and afterwards what did he call her, that’s Bob S.
All the way home on the bus ride they enjoyed ‘whiskey sours and beer’ while singing their hearts out… because a fun time was had by all. And ALL felt that they had accomplished something and they invited the media who took pictures and published them…..FREE! See the AP pictures in the book. See the article in the New York Times. Go to www.feartheirs.com and read some of the many newspaper articles…free! Show me one for the WTPO.
There is an old saying that goes something like this….If you don’t learn from history…you are doomed to repeat it. Unfortunately, this generation is suffering worse because they refuse to learn from HISTORY! April 15 – The Fear Factor is the HISTORY of the movement!
Two members of the We the People Organization, Dick Simkanin and Lynne Meredith, are living proof of exactly what I am talking about. They ignored HISTORY. They were found guilty of 29 counts and 7 counts by the ‘plants on the jury’. They had horrible advice. I went to the ‘Freedom Roast’ especially to have a chance to meet with We The Peoples ‘leader’. He told me in no uncertain terms that he was not interested.
Bob Schulz is PATHIC!
This organization….WTP… reminds me of a baseball team who can get the first two men on base…but then the next three batters – strike out…. and the manager will not change!
If the People can’t convince this manager to step aside…prison industries will have all of ‘We The Peoples’ so-called 65,000 membership in their factories….study HISTORY!
Support Larken Rose’s ‘861 disk’, I believe this disk is a ‘powerful’ tool!